31
Oct
07

Tropical Storm… OF DEATH

Happy Halloween everyone.  Now, we all love horror stories, especially disaster type stories.  The fires in California.  Cat 3 Hurricane Katrina.  Tsunami.  Earthquakes.

Well, now there’s Tropical Storm Noel, which is currently responsible for 81 deaths, all from flooding.

What’s special here?  That a tropical storm makes news.  Noel is generating lots of rain, which isn’t unusual for a tropical storm.  It’s maximum sustained winds have been between 50-60 miles an hour around its eye.  And its never reached hurricane force.  But it has made the news.  Why?

Well, the entire hurricane season has been a bust.  There’s been a few Cat 1 hurricanes, and a dozen tropical storms, but none have been that spectacular.  No damage, no great deaths- no Katrina, in other words.  There’s nothing here that boosts the idea of Death by Global Warming, either.  So there has to be a manufactured disaster, and that’s what we’re getting with Noel.

The storm will never reach hurricane strength, and if it did, it would be a minimal Cat 1 at best, which won’t cause much damage at all.  But the fearmongers in the media have to make something of this storm.  And that’s why we’re getting news stories about it.

Last season was a bust, too.  And this year was supposed to make up for it as there was no El Nino to suppress hurricane formation.  So with warmer oceans and a warmer atmosphere, we’re supposed to see devastating storms, right?  Well, not right.  And the number of storms was up there– it was just that few actually formed hurricanes because the warmer seas did not actually produce stronger, more threatening storms!  And that’s important in and of itself.

Now we may get a few big storms here in November.  The 2007 Hurricane Season doesn’t end until November 30th.  But it looks like it’s a big fizzle.


15 Responses to “Tropical Storm… OF DEATH”


  1. November 5, 2007 at 7:08 pm

    Let us not forget preparation. Proper disater prepartion is a HUGE mitigating factor.

    Why was Katrina devastating? Was it a Al-pocalyptic global warming? Or was it poorly maintained and managed levies? Was it lack of a rehearsed disaster plan in the Big Easy? Why did the poor people not get out of town? Was it lack of a car or the inability of N.O. to do what every other Gulf Coast town does and use school busses to move people?

    FEMA screwed up plenty. But would they have done better if a major city did not see being below sea and river level as a more serious issue? (I even remember and NPR radio bit a few years ago where the reporter hung with the people who defied evacuation orders and fearlessly partied during a previous hurricane.)

    Never mind. New Orleans re-elected the same mayor that got them into that mess to begin with. Let’s not take a good hard look at ourselves. Let’s Blame Global Warming but somebody please read “The Three Little Pigs” at the next N.O. City Council meeting!

  2. 2 William
    November 5, 2007 at 8:31 pm

    To clear up perhaps some intended misinformation. A normal season, as defined by NOAA, has 6 to 14 named storms, with 4 to 8 of those reaching hurricane strength, and 1 to 3 major hurricanes.

    This season had: 5 Hurricanes, 2 reaching catagory 5 (Dean & Felix). 15 named storms in total, about an average hurricane season.

    Noel did reach hurricane strength and killed 143 people.

    Just the facts here, no spin.

  3. 3 docattheautopsy
    November 7, 2007 at 12:14 am

    But I thought with global warming we were supposed to have seasons with more storms of greater intensity? Four of fifteen storms are hurricanes, the rest were tropical storms. That’s far less than the models predict for a warming season.

    Noel reached hurricane strength (cat 1) but the deaths it caused from flooding and mudslides were from its time as a tropical storm.

    You don’t provide any ‘spin’, so to say, but you omit the intention of the Global Warming alarmists to paint hurricane formation as a consequence of global warming.

  4. 4 docattheautopsy
    November 7, 2007 at 12:17 am

    As for FEMA, it got a bad rap after Katrina. Florida, the previous year, had been hit with four hurricanes in succession tracking along similar paths. And FEMA was there with proper state responders to clean up the mess.

    FEMA’s been doing a great job in California as well with the wildfires, contrary to popular belief. They did manage to evacuate 1 million people. And they did hold one fake news conference. Great idea!

    But here I’ll say that the Federal job in these cases is to provided support to local relief organizations through manpower (Corps of Engineers) and funding. Local governments and state governments need to organize and respond quickly.

    The tragedy of Katrina was a corrupt local government, a confused FEMA, and a coastal city that was built below sea level.

  5. November 7, 2007 at 11:13 am

    Hey, did you hear… FoxNews reported that al Qaeda was responsible for the CA fires! We need to fear al Qaeda, all Muslims in fact. Our christian president has been protecting us so well, hasn’t been an attack since 9/11!

    As we certainly know the difference between climate change and weather, we don’t take one hurricane season and try to draw a trend. Here in TN, we had a record breaking summer of extreme heat and drought, an unprecedented 15 days over 100 F. – (more 100+ degree days in one month than in the previous 15 yrs combined). But we know Doc, that is not evidence of global warming, nor would I ever claim it to be. One season’s temps mean nothing except what is contributed to an overall trend. So you don’t have to put me in with the crowd that touts hurricane Katrina as evidence of Global Warming. I think a sronger case could be made that Katrina shows ‘George Bush doesn’t care about black people’

  6. 6 docattheautopsy
    November 7, 2007 at 4:36 pm

    The article floated the idea that terrorism “could” have been responsible for the fires. Given unknown suspects and the mass damage, it was certainly a possibility.

    “we don’t take one hurricane season and try to draw a trend.”

    The post-Katrina Global Warming hysterics certainly didn’t rely on 100 years of published data to have people rallying against industry. I’m not saying you did, but there are certainly members of the Global Warming Alarmist community who jumped on that bandwagon. When Al Gore included a picture of a hurricane coming out of a smokestack, I’m wondering just what kind of message he’s trying to send.

    As for the Bu$$$$$hitler not caring about black people, I think that’s evident, given he wants to replace the black minority with a Mexican minority by issuing blanket amnesty. Just lump that in with other groups he doesn’t care about, such as libertarians.

  7. November 8, 2007 at 4:22 am

    The article floated the idea that terrorism “could” have been responsible for the fires. Given unknown suspects and the mass damage, it was certainly a possibility.
    ———–

    Hey folks,
    Here’s Doc’s news choice, the channel he watches and defends:
    fair and balanced –

    Both Lowes and Home Depot have pulled advertising from the highest rated Fox News show “The O’Reilly Factor” due to disingenuous broadcasting.

    Watch the whole series – Fox News exposed.
    ——————-
    Here’s a daily update on Fox News spin, any given day:
    http://www.newshounds.us/

  8. 8 docattheautopsy
    November 8, 2007 at 8:54 am

    I can’t believe I wasted my time watching that garbage.

    I suppose the Fox News Special “The Heat is On”, which was lauded by Laurie David, was part of the evil Big Oil/Big Tobacco plot to discredit Global Warming, too?

    Smooth editing and fun graphics don’t make a debate on the science of global warming, Willy. If you’re really taking these videos seriously, then you’re off the deep end.

  9. November 8, 2007 at 5:22 pm

    The Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI), a Washington, D.C.-based think tank heavily funded by corporate interests, asked Fox News to revise “The Heat is On” special before it aired. As a Washington Post article reported, “The Competitive Enterprise Institute, which widely publicizes its belief that the earth is not warming cataclysmically because of the burning of coal and oil,” says Exxon Mobil Corp. is a “major donor” largely as a result of its effort to push that position.

    The Fox News one-hour special, Global Warming: The Debate Continues, in which host David Asman speaks “with scientists who are skeptical of what they view as alarmist fears about climate change.” Among the roster of contributors are several global warming skeptics with ties to the energy industry and records of misinformation on the issue. here are the people you and Fox rely on to make your case:

    Patrick J. Michaels – has received more than $165,000 in fuel-industry funding, including money from the coal industry to publish his own climate journal.

    Bjørn Lomborg – Scientific American ran a series of articles from four well-known environmental specialists that lambasted Lomborg’s book for “egregious distortions,” “elementary blunders of quantitative manipulation and presentation that no self-respecting statistician ought to commit,” and sections “poorly researched and … rife with careless mistakes.”

    John Christy – Christy and fellow University of Alabama professor Roy Spencer co-authored a 2003 global warming study based on extensive data from weather satellites. Their report, which concluded that the troposphere had not warmed in recent decades, was ultimately found to have significant errors. As The New York Times reported, when their miscalculations were taken into account, the data used in their study actually showed warming in the troposphere.

    Roy Spencer – has ties to the Exxon funded George C. Marshall Institute.

    There are numerous documented instances in which misinformation about climate-change issues has surfaced on Fox News:

    for example:

    1)The Wall Street Journal’s Paul Gigot falsely claimed that a new study by the Max Planck Institute for Nuclear Physics undermines the science behind global warming.

    2)On Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor, John Stossel trivialized global temperature increases, stating “the globe is warming, but it’s one degree.” In fact, scientists have determined that the approximately 1 degree Fahrenheit increase in global temperature during the 20th century has adversely affected several ecosystems and that a continuation of warming trends could be detrimental to humankind.

    3) On Fox News’ The Journal Editorial Report, Wall Street Journal editorial board member Rob Pollock falsely claimed that “most” of the global warming that has occurred “over the past century … happened before 1940.” In fact, according to data presented by the Climatic Research Unit, the last three decades have seen a sharper rise in global air temperature than any other period since at least 1860, including the years preceding 1940.

    4) On Fox News’ Hannity & Colmes, Cato Institute senior fellow Patrick J. Michaels distorted comments made by former Vice President Al Gore to falsely suggest Gore endorsed exaggerating the threat of global warming.

  10. 10 docattheautopsy
    November 8, 2007 at 7:25 pm

    Hey, Willy, how about next time you just link to Media Matters where you get all of this garbage.

    I’ve already explained to you why attacking the funding of research is erroneous– I’m not going to repeat myself.

    But how about you think for yourself? I don’t cut & paste my articles from other sources, and when I do, it’s in the form of quotation. I don’t let the articles do my thinking for me. Especially if you’re only sources is Media Matters.

    Me? I get my stuff from papers, texts, and scientific principle. I don’t have to attack people on their funding. Instead I attack their data.

  11. November 8, 2007 at 8:42 pm

    Instead of attacking the Media Matters, why don’t you discuss the substance of my comment? Media Matters isn’t offering an opinion here, it is stating facts. You got a problem with facts?

  12. 12 docattheautopsy
    November 8, 2007 at 10:33 pm

    Or, here’s an idea. I posed to you the fact a while ago that CO2 lagged behind temperature increases in the past by as much as 800 years. Please explain why all of those increases in CO2 lagged behind temperature increases? And also explain that at points in the past where CO2 levels were high, the temperature decreased.

    What possible explanation can there be for this phenomena?

    Or are you just going to go off an accuse someone of being in the pocket of Big Oil?

  13. November 8, 2007 at 11:18 pm

    More on Bjørn Lomborg – one of Stossel’s ‘experts’ – examples of scientists you rely on to make your case.

    The presigeous scientific journal Nature described Lomborgs work: ’employs the strategy of those who argue that… Jews weren’t singled out by the Nazis’. The Danish Committee for Scientific Dishonesty was called to evaluate his work. Their analysis of Lomborg’s book concluded the following: “the publication is deemed clearly contrary to the standards of good scientific practice” “there has been such perversion of the scientific message in the form of systematically biased representation that the objective criteria for upholding scientific dishonesty … have been met”. Scientific American has a 12 page article titled “Misleading Math about the Earth” dedicated solely to debunking his book. And National Academy of Science member Norman Myers says Lomborg has not done “a fraction of the homework that could give him a preliminary understanding of the science in question.”

    http://www.logicalscience.com/skeptics/Lomborg.html

  14. 14 Matt R.
    November 11, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    William, you seem to miss the point. You need to quote facts not just say “so-and-so” said this and “so-and-so” said that. Surely, you do not believe magazines at face value. Heck, Time named Hitler man of the year.

    Speaking of Hitler, Nature’s quote is a classic example of hyperbole’, using exaggeration to make a (dramatic) statement. BUT the statement is a non sequitur. I for one, am sick of people throwing der Furher into non-related debates.
    Pol Pot is like Hitler
    Stalin is like Hitler
    What the US did to the Indians is like the Holocaust
    Darfur is like the Holocaust

    Global warming is like….global warming. Can we please debate the issue without implying people who disagree with us are Nazi’s?

    Who is going to take a joint named the “The Danish Committee for Scientific Dishonesty” as a unbiased news source? ” Why not just …quote Kyoto? When you Google please give preference to addresses ending in .org or .edu.

    Please, quote numbers and stats, and while you are at it, link to the Nature’s and Sci Amer’s website?

    Thanks.


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