Democrats Seeking Change

Rahm Emmanuel, the No. 4 Democrat in the House, thinks that the creation of the Senate “was a mistake“.

“As an amateur student of constitutional history and as a member of Congress, I have come to the conclusion that the Senate was a historic mistake,” said Representative Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, the No. 4 Democrat.

This is similar to the idea floated by Hillary Clinton that the Electoral College should be changed, too.

In the wake of the 2000 presidential election, numerous commentators discovered what they took to be flaws in the presidential election system. For Hillary Clinton, for example, the election of George W. Bush demonstrated that the Electoral College should be abolished in favor of a French-style national election on a one-man, one-vote basis. Displaying her characteristic combination of ideological commitment and historical ignorance, Clinton opined that it simply was not right that the victory should go not to the recipient of the most popular votes, but to the winner in the Electoral College.

The NYT Editorial Board thinks it’s a great idea.

It seems the Democrats want to do away with a republic of states and just make the “United States” into “The One Big State”.

I wonder what other checks and balances they want to toss? If Bush puts one more conservative on the court, I’m sure we’ll see a movement to change the lifetime appointment of judges as well.


9 Responses to “Democrats Seeking Change”

  1. 1 Matt R.
    December 7, 2007 at 12:55 pm

    What an idiot. For the Dems to go for it would be like the Turkeys voting for Thanksgiving. Sure, I bet the (short -sighted) thinking goes something like this…”Hey we have a majority in the cities and big population states like CA, PA, MA and IL so lets push for a Parlimentry system. England is parlimentry and they have basically two parties so we should be fine.”

    Problem with that is that England has no small states, New Hampshire especially. I see NH getting really angry over this proposal. If I were a Rep. I’d blare this over every TV in NH 24/7, “The Democrats in congress want to elimate your senatorial power…)

    A parlimetry system would eventually open the floodgates for splinter parties. Isn’t the Democratic party fractured enough?

    The Majority whip should used it on this guy.

  2. 2 Matt R.
    December 7, 2007 at 2:52 pm

    Paris Hilton is more popular than Hilary, but would she make a great president?

    Electoral overhaul? Let’s look at history. Andrew Jackson, the trial-of-tears, racist, duelist claimed the same when he first lost to JQ Adams on electoral votes. He made the same accusations about non-representation, backroom deals etc. John Quincy was a great treaty maker, abolitionist, etc. but he wasn’t as popular.

    Jackson was the most popular president ever elected. His inaugural ball ended with the White House getting trashed “House Party” style. Lincoln was the most unpopular president ever elected. He had to sneak into DC to avoid pro-slavery lynch mobs.

    The Electoral College provides the people with insulation from the Donald Trump/Rupert Murdochs/Paris Hilton’s of the world getting elected president via cash or communication empires. The EC is often made up of people who know politics and the candidates better than a TV veiwer. Why is Hil afriad of this?

  3. 3 George Washington
    December 7, 2007 at 3:15 pm

    How fucking stupid do you have to be to not realize a democracy is not that with out one vote per person.

  4. December 7, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    Where did the Dumbs get educated? Kremlin High?

  5. 5 robertsc
    December 8, 2007 at 11:20 am

    You are all very foolish. The only reason the Senate exists is because when it was formed, only the STATES acting as the Soverein character of the People, elected Senators. The Senators were all elected by the State Legislatures not by the People directly. The United States Government is NOT party to the Constitution. The States created the damn federal government. What exists today is a total perversion of the Constitution and that is why we have the problems we have. The Nineteenth amendment to the Constitution changed the election of Senators from the Legislatures to the People directly. Thank you Mr. Lincoln for making this an EMPIRE. The SOUTH was right to secede, that is the ONLY solution to the problems today. Let each State decide for itself how to best govern itself. Form a loose association or Confederation for defense. Then those that like abortion can have it, while those that are against it can be FREE to be against it. Let those that want weed to be legal have it legal while those that don’t can keep it illegal. Let those that want to have a sound money policy, use gold and silver, let those that want fiat currency keep it. The list goes on and on. AMERICA is too big to govern short of a federal dictatorship. End the tyranny of minority rule, end the tyranny of separation of Church and State. Read the Constitution. There is NO SUCH THING as separation of Church and State. It says “Congress shall pass no law establishing a religion”. Thats all it says. So if a State wants to have a Nativity scene it should be free to do so. Its Time to End the Empire. Its like the TITANIC, and we are all about to sink. You people can’t see the Iceburg which is globalism and centralization. It started with Lincoln, will it end with Bush?

  6. 6 robertsc
    December 8, 2007 at 5:57 pm

    We supposedly live in a Constitutional Federal REPUBLIC. Not a freaking DEMOCRACY. The definition of a democracy is 2 wolves and a chicken deciding what is for dinner. Please, you people deserve exactly what is coming. A totalitarian dictatorship, ever so slowly, and more and more right before your sheepish eyes.

  7. 7 Matt R.
    December 8, 2007 at 7:49 pm

    Fact: The Confederate (sic) constitution was almost word for word the same as the Fed constitution, except it included slavery. In the end, Davis was left with more executive power than Lincoln and the Confederacy was an even more federally organized.

    Fact: We tried the loose confederation. It stinks. The Fed government was originally really weak and it did not serve the people well. It took two constitutional conventions to get what we have now, all southern states (at the time) helped to get it right.

    Opinion: You want to talk about globalization? Sweat shops? Let’s talk Ante-bellum plantations, producing cheap cotton to fuel overseas (England’s) textile industry.

    The Civil War was a rich man’s war. According to the 1860 census, 10% of southerners owned slaves, 10% of them owned more than five. Yet the vast majority of slaves picked cotton. It was all about protecting export taxes for said cotton and the southern senators protecting said exports for the plantation owners.

    The rich men used the propaganda of “states rights” to sell their war and people like you are still falling for it.

    Fact: I see the Palmetto in your icon. That mean you’ll know that the slavers of SC tried to secede once before and Andrew Jackson whupped your sorry behinds for the same reasons Lincoln did. So I guess it’s not Lincoln. It’s South Carolina’s issue.

    Lincoln Made this an empire? Yeah. It really stinks when people treat other people like slaves, doesn’t it?

    PS. We are a democratic-republic. Were you asleep in history class?

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