25
Apr
09

Democrat Global Warming Insanity

In the “you can’t make this stuff up” file, Al Gore showed up in Congress to plead to his Democrat buddies that “action must be taken” before the world reaches the point of no return.  But here’s what he said:

“It is a challenge that this Congress must rise to,” Gore said. “I wish I could find the words to get past the partisan divide that both sides have contributed to. … It shouldn’t be partisan. It should be something we do together in our national interest.”

Nice words.  But what happened 24 hours earlier?

UK’s Lord Christopher Monckton, a former science advisor to Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, claimed House Democrats have refused to allow him to appear alongside former Vice President Al Gore at a high profile global warming hearing on Friday April 24, 2009 at 10am in Washington. Monckton told Climate Depot that the Democrats rescinded his scheduled joint appearance at the House Energy and Commerce hearing on Friday. Monckton said he was informed that he would not be allowed to testify alongside Gore when his plane landed from England Thursday afternoon.

So, he urges bipartisanship, so long as the other side of the political deivide doesn’t get to hear the evidence contrary to Gore’s premise! Of course, this is typical of Gore.  It’s not the first time he ran from a debate.

And where is this blatant hypocrisy reported in the media?  Oh, it’s not!  When you control the media, you frame the debate, and when you exclude half of the debate, you control the conclusions.

No wonder I’m depressed.


11 Responses to “Democrat Global Warming Insanity”


  1. 1 suckonthis
    June 15, 2009 at 3:07 am

    Hey, did you know that Lord Christopher Monckton, Viscount of Brenchley, works for the Heartland Institute, a puppet think-tank for ExxonMobil?

    Did you know that the Heartland Institute is also extensively funded by the tobacco industry?

    Did you know know that Monckton also works for the Science and Public Policy Institute, another puppet think tank for ExxonMobil?

    Did you know that back in 1987, Moncton said “…. there is only one way to stop AIDS. That is to screen the entire population regularly and to quarantine all carriers of the disease for life. Every member of the population should be blood-tested every month … all those found to be infected with the virus, even if only as carriers, should be isolated compulsorily, immediately, and permanently.”

    Do you still think this maniacal oil-industry lobbyist should have been allowed to show up at a congress hearing, since it’s eminently clear to all and sundry that the “global warming is myth” movement don’t actually give a damn whether it’s true or not, they just want to be allowed to make lots of money?

    • 2 docattheautopsy
      June 23, 2009 at 6:48 am

      FYI– attacking the “big oil thinktank” Monckton works for is canard. I don’t argue with someone’s chemistry by attacking their funding– I argue by attacking their conclusions.

      Don’t tell me the Democrats don’t have a dog in this fight. I wonder just how much stimulus money is going towards climate change projects? If that’s the case, and it’s a Democratically controlled government, then it must be true that all of those scientists are shills for climate change, right?

      Check the DATA, suckonthis. I wouldn’t be arguing that Climate Change is baloney if the data supported those conclusions. Look at this website and you’ll see that the trend is slowly working towards cooling.

      http://digitaldiatribes.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/june-2009-update-on-global-temperature-uah/

      • 3 suckonthis
        June 23, 2009 at 7:19 am

        Nah, you’re clearly right, and all the shit we chuck into the sea and the atmosphere and all the forests we cut down and burn are having zero effect whatsoever.

        And we should also allow whatever Exxon representative to argue in front of Congress that his bosses aren’t dong any damage whatsoever. Gore’s only a Nobel Prize recipient and winner of the popular vote in the 200 Presidential election, he should definitely be made to answer to the arguments of any unqualified aristocratic conspiracy theorist who happens to blunder in at the behest of big oil.

        I have graphs about trends too, see:

        http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/detect/global-temps.shtml

        Mine cover a longer period than 30 years, though. Here’s another one, it’s even easier to understand:

        http://www.koshland-science-museum.org/exhibitgcc/historical03.jsp

        But I could throw graphs at you all day, and I reckon you still wouldn’t care, right?

      • 4 docattheautopsy
        June 23, 2009 at 2:03 pm

        Nah, you’re clearly right, and all the shit we chuck into the sea and the atmosphere and all the forests we cut down and burn are having zero effect whatsoever.

        I never said that. Clearly CO2 is causing some warming. However, historical evidence points to CO2 levels that lag behind heat trends, not the other way around, which indicates CO2 levels are so minimal they cannot possibly be the sole driving force of planetary temperature.

        “Gore’s only a Nobel Prize recipient and winner of the popular vote in the 200 Presidential election, he should definitely be made to answer to the arguments of any unqualified aristocratic conspiracy theorist who happens to blunder in at the behest of big oil.”

        Well, if Gore is such an expert, he shouldn’t be afraid to meet in a public arena and discuss the merits of climate change. However, he’s repeatedly dodged invitations from around the world to do so. Hardly the courage necessary to become a Nobel laureate.

        The NOAA has been peculiar as of late, mainly due to the influence of James Hansen, modeler extraordinaire, who has been trying his best to convince us his last sets of models weren’t the piles of garbage they turned out to be. HADCRUT has had more universal temperature values that haven’t evoked the laughter Hansen’s reports have.

        Let me put it to you this way. Gore used the ice core values from Vostok to make his point in “An Inconvenient Truth”. The most recent data from Vostok can be found here.

        Looking at this graph is useful as well.

        Note that methane and CO2 both rise with temperature (and note that it’s after the temperature increase). You can’t dispute that temperature is the control here, as it’s the only increase that will simultaneously drive equal oceanic gaseous emissions. Ergo, temperature drives CO2 concentrations, not the other way around.

        If you want an excellent discussion on this, read this discussion here.

  2. 5 Matt R.
    June 16, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    Just because Moncton said that about AIDS doesn’t mean he was suggesting it. Context is vital. I think the AIDS education policy he helped draft in the UK speaks better.

    Oh, and Cuba DID universally screen and isolate HIV+ people.

    Are you are finally waking up to the idea that Congress only recruits experts who support the positions they already made up their mind about? Doc, alone, has been railing about that for years.

  3. 6 suckonthis
    June 17, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    I think you’ll find that as recently as 2006, Monckton was still complaining that the Thatcher government hadn’t implemented his AIDS prevention policy.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2006/nov/22/environment

    Furthermore I don’t really see what the recruitment policies of Congress have to do with the issue. Monckton is not a scientist, he never has been a scientist, and the only official capacity in which he currently has any real authority to speak is as a lobbyist for the oil industry. Or possibly a puzzle designer.

    Monckton no more belongs at an evironmental hearing than a heavy artillery salesman would at a peace talk.

  4. 7 Matt R
    June 17, 2009 at 6:38 pm

    The Guardian?
    You couldn’t get the Daily News or the Star?
    The Labour Party mouthpeice didn’t like a Thatcher-ite? shocking.
    How dedicated to Labour is the Guardian?
    I remember the Guardian from a report I did. They blamed the peace protesters for the “Sunday Bloody Sunday” slaughter in Northern Ireland.
    Let me know when you find something from the Times or the BBC.

    Meanwhile, get used to the idea that people call expert witness that will help their case. Balance only comes when you hear form the side you may disagree with.

  5. 8 suckonthis
    June 18, 2009 at 3:31 am

    The Times? Rupert Murdoch’s mouthpiece? Oh well, if you insist. Here’s Jonathan Leake, science and environment editor of the Times, discussing the evidence he has seen of global warming:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article5683655.ece

    Oh look, here’s another one:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6446236.ece?Submitted=true

    As for the BBC, the last time they reported anything about Monckton was when he released his latest puzzle. But the BBC are also largely conscious that global warming is a reality. They have an awful lot of qualified scientists working for them, you see. Here’s their minisite on the subject:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/sci_tech/2000/climate_change/

    The problem with calling Monckton as an expert witness is that he’s not an expert. He has no scientific qualifications whatsoever. And furthemore, his close professional association with industries which produce a massive amount of pollution puts him in a position of direct conflict of interest. Get used to the idea that expert witnesses shouldn’t have conflicts of interest.

    Oh, by the way, here’s the Guardian article from the day after the Bloody Sunday massacre, where the journalist clearly indicates that he believes the army fired needlessly on the crowd.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/1972/jan/31/bloodysunday.northernireland

    And you’ll note that it’s just “Bloody Sunday”. “Sunday Bloody Sunday” is the name of a U2 song about it. How thorough your report must have been.

  6. 9 suckonthis
    June 20, 2009 at 5:09 pm

    Hey there – just wondering if you’ll get around to approving my comment. Thanks!

  7. 10 John A. Davison
    June 20, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    I am a global warming alarmist which is probably my only agreement with Al Gore. I have written a brief essay on the subject entitled “Why runaway global warming is inevitable.”

    It is available on the Essays button on my home page –

    jadavison.wordpress.com

  8. 11 suckonthis
    June 21, 2009 at 9:49 am

    Actually I’ll just repost my answer to Matt R:

    The Times? Rupert Murdoch’s mouthpiece? Oh well, if you insist. Here’s Jonathan Leake, science and environment editor of the Times, discussing the evidence he has seen of global warming:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article5683655.ece

    Oh look, here’s another one:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6446236.ece?Submitted=true

    As for the BBC, the last time they reported anything about Monckton was when he released his latest puzzle. But the BBC are also largely conscious that global warming is a reality. They have an awful lot of qualified scientists working for them, you see. Here’s their minisite on the subject:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/sci_tech/2000/climate_change/

    The problem with calling Monckton as an expert witness is that he’s not an expert. He has no scientific qualifications whatsoever. And furthemore, his close professional association with industries which produce a massive amount of pollution puts him in a position of direct conflict of interest. Get used to the idea that expert witnesses shouldn’t have conflicts of interest.

    Oh, by the way, here’s the Guardian article from the day after the Bloody Sunday massacre, where the journalist clearly indicates that he believes the army fired needlessly on the crowd.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/1972/jan/31/bloodysunday.northernireland

    And you’ll note that it’s just “Bloody Sunday”. “Sunday Bloody Sunday” is the name of a U2 song about it. How thorough your report must have been.


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