The Ignorant, Brainwashed Naturalists Strike Again

So, in defense of Bill “Let’s Not Vaccinate” Maher, Autopsy commenter Karen popped up with copy-and-pasted blather from people who think Big Pharma and Big Medicine are out to kill us all while they make billions of dollars (for rich, white, racist, fat, smoking Republicans, nonetheless).

This is a problem I have with the internet.  Some people, like Karen, want to believe in something so much, that they will stop accepting any kind of rational explanations and instead post half-truths to make themselves look better.  What’s worse, it’s not even their own words they use.  Says Karen:

783,936 people in the United States die every year from conventional medicine mistakes.

I recognized that wasn’t Karen’s voice, so I copy-and-pasted it into Google, and lo and behold, see what I found!  Those words are attributed to Dr. Gary Null (I’ll use the term “doctor” lightly in his case, as he got his Ph.D. in “Interdisciplinary Studies” from correspondence school).

But wait!  Karen isn’t done not thinking. She “says”:

Poisoning from prescription drugs has risen to become the second-leading cause of unintentional deaths in the United States, according to the CDC

Here’s another line, lifted from NaturalNews.com, and several other places that propagate holistic well-being over modern medicine.  Odd that they all  use the exact same wording in their articles?

And I’m sure if you called up the CDC and asked them “Hey, unintentional poisioning is high, so I’m going to stop taking my medicine”, they’ll tell you you’re out of your mind.  Why?  Because, yes, accidents happen.  Yes, people are allergic to some medicines.  There’s no way of knowing there would be a complication if someone’s never take the drug before.  Does that mean all medicine is dangerous?  Of course not.  But it does mean that there are risks with all medicines.  Karen wants us to think that by going to all-natural, holistic cures, we’d do away with the risk of them.  Alternatively, if Karen wants us to test every single drug against every other single drug, and every single genetic marker, etc, so we prevent such deaths, then she is dooming many other people, people who need those medicines, to death as we run countless tests to see if there may be a 1 in 10,000,000 risk with the drug.

The truth of the matter is that Big Pharma (evil bastards *spit*) have rigorous controls in place to check the development phase of new medicines for any dangers.  The FDA puts strict limits on the clinical trials of these drugs.  The process chemist doesn’t want to kill people.  The clinician doesn’t want to kill people.  The pharmacists don’t want to kill people.  Nobody wants to kill people, but Karen and others of the “all-natural” cures are actually attacking our medical infrastructure to try and prove their insane notions.  (And, when you are attempting to prevent people from getting the medicines they need to survive, then yes, you are insane.)

Karen even goes so far as to post a list of drugs that the FDA has recalled or issued warnings about.  Now, this is a bit misleading (no, Karen wouldn’t purposefully mislead us, would she?).  So let’s go through the first 5 drugs she listed:

Heparin.  What is it?  It’s an anti-coagulent.  In fact, it’s isolated from natural sources (odd she’d pick on a natural product).  Why was it recalled?  Actually, a batch of heparin was contaminated, so to prevent possible dangers, all people who got that batch of heparin for their blood-carrying materials were advised to not use it.  Is all heparin bad?  No.  If it were, then we couldn’t do things like give blood, or store blood samples, or run IV transfusions.  Bear in mind that the American Red Cross states that giving one pint of blood can save 3 lives.  So the question is, why doesn’t Karen want people to donate blood to save lives?!

Visicol.  What is Visicol?  It’s a phosphate-based laxative used to “purge” the colon before colonoscopies.   What is the warning?  Visicol has been reported, in rare cases, to cause kidney damage.  Again, in rare cases.  I suppose Karen would rather have all those people get colon cancer.  Oh wait, who’s most at risk from colon cancer?  African Americans! I guess Karen really is a racist.

OsmoPrep.  Where have I heard this before?  Oh, it’s a rival phosphate product to Visicol.  So this is the same warning as Visicol, not that Karen tells us.  She just conjures another boogeyman.

Healon D.  What is it?  Well, it’s not a dangerous drug.  It’s a device used in eye surgery.  And only one lot has been recalled.  Why?  A chemical associated with the manufacture of these items tested above the FDA limit.  Good thing there’s quality control.

Raptiva.  What is it?  A drug to treat psoriasis.  Why is it being recalled?  Raptiva has been shown to cause an increased risk of a nervous disorder called PML (progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy), which, once contracted, becomes fatal.  In this case, Genentech, the company who manufactures Raptiva, is voluntarily removing Raptiva from the market.

So there you have it.  OF the first 5, only 1 has a dangerous recall, and one wasn’t even a drug.  But in the eyes of the fanatic, there’s no reason to actually do the research when there are websites to do it for you!

I think what upsets me the most is that people like Karen would deny people medicines they need because they are not on the approved list of “natural” remedies.  Given that I am currently fighting off H1N1, I’m pretty thankful for antibiotics and expectorants and analgesics.  And modern medicine, which makes once-dangerous illnesses like influenza far less fatal than they would be.

And just to let you know, Karens of the world, viruses like this attack the young and the healthy.  No exercise or organic food or holistic remedies will stop the virus.




7 Responses to “The Ignorant, Brainwashed Naturalists Strike Again”

  1. 1 Karen
    November 2, 2009 at 12:50 am

    Ha, I was right. We can see what lifestyle choices have done for Doc, the obese blogger and defender of modern medicine. Yes, I have the internet too. I see you’re a global warming science denier as well. Science is great if it fits your political agenda.

  2. 2 docattheautopsy
    November 2, 2009 at 6:59 am

    Typical. Bereft of intellectual acumen, Karen and others of her ilk have to resort to calling me “fat” to prove their point. Notice how she gives four sentences in reply to a post about her anti-immunization nonsense. And as she has no leg left to stand on, she moves to ad hominem attacks.

    Crazy iceberg, indeed.

  3. 3 Matt R
    November 2, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Typical indeed. Karen, you demonstrate your lack of good manners and real reason. Stick to the words. BTW we know you can use the internet. That’s hwo you were able to cut and paste all your thoughts.

  4. 4 Karen
    November 2, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    And you completely ignor everything I wrote on the clear connections of thimersol/mercury in vaccines to increased risk of Alzheimers, autism, etc…

    From the CDC:
    “in July 1999, the Public Health Service agencies, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and vaccine manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in vaccines as a precautionary measure.

    Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines.”

    Yet thimersol is in the H1N1 vaccine as well as most flu vaccines givenb to kids.

  5. 5 docattheautopsy
    November 3, 2009 at 7:07 am

    Maybe you should go back and re-read your comment, Karen. You may find a response, including the official CDC stance on thimerosal. There are no clear connections between thimerosal and autism, and the “connection” you claim to Alzheimers is totally baseless.

  6. 6 TM
    November 16, 2009 at 1:50 am

    To give you an idea the level of person we’re dealing with here, Doc supported Tancredo for president – a creationist. He also supported Palin, another creationist. I wonder what his colleagues at the college would think of this Doc’s judgement/intellect?

    Talk about ignorant. Or tell us Doc, is evolution a liberal conspiracy?

    • 7 docattheautopsy
      November 16, 2009 at 11:31 pm

      1) No, I supported Hunter, not Tancredo.

      2) I support Palin’s conservative perspective. Please note that supporting someone does not mean complete belief in everything they say. If you want to read what I think about the evolution debate, read my posts here and here. But I doubt you will, sock-puppet.

      3) By your standards, you are anti-gay marriage, because Barack Obama has stated that marriage should be between a man and a woman. Tell me, why do you hate the gays, TM?

      4) And notice the implied threat. “Let’s out him as a conservative to his college pals!” Only a liberal would seek to bully someone like that. “Think our way, or lose your job!”

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